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Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4114	Posted - 2013.12.16 17:44:00 - [1] - Quote Just going to copy/paste this from another thread, figure it could use a little more attention. Note that it may sound like I am portraying the Amarr and Caldari as pure good and Gallente and Minmatar are pure evil, but that is not the case. Since everyone seems to believe the opposite, I thought I'd bring out some points refuting, that is all. No one is trying to mask anything, this is simply how things are. And no, you don't have to be a reformist to believe Amarr and Caldari have plenty of good sides. Try to keep an open mind on the matter. DeadlyAztec11 wrote: No matter how you mask it, the Amarr are religious conquers that enslave people. While the Caldari are large government people that control their citizens with something akin to janisariers and serfdom, as well as their leaders are large corporate capitalists. To go beyond that you would need to make explanations for the Caldari and Amarr much more lengthy. When you start to get more into the story the lines between right and wrong start to blur, but even then the Caldari and Amarr are still seen as somewhat bad guys. I know I was originally going to choose Amarr, my thinking was, "These guys are like Crusaders in space, on a mission from the divine... o.O". Then I read they enslaved people and I said "** that, I hate social injustice like that.". Then I read about the Caldari and thought "Wow, space Communists! Cool!", BUT!- I then did EXTRA research online and realized that they weren't communists at all and thought "These guys aren't even trying to really help people, they are just what would happen if Japan was administered by Wal-Mart and they all decided to look like grey communists". The CaldarI and Amarr just aren't appealing unless you want to be an antagonist, or possibly if you want to be a reformer, IE an Amarr that wants to free the slaves or a Caldari that wants more social liberties. But let me ask you True, how would you have written the descriptions? You see, True, it's people like this who make all your efforts null. "No matter how you mask it"? We're not trying to mask anything. The Amarr don't just go an enslave anyone willy nilly. All the races they enslave are primitive and aggressive. That does not exclude the Minmatar, who are perhaps the most violent culture New Eden has ever seen. When Amarr "enslaves" them (really, they are guiding them as a parent figure) they transform them into more peaceful human beings that bring more stability to New Eden. Oh and yeah, Amarr are all about peace and stability among New Eden, that is the whole premise of their religion and it is also evident by how they are watching over the other three empires. And you're right, Caldari aren't space communists. In fact, they are space capitalists which is the EXACT opposite. And where do you get that they are trying to hate people? Oh and guess what? Amarr does free all their slaves, that is part of their culture, it is not the acts of reformists. Oh and guess what? Caldari do have social liberties, it is part of their culture, it is not the acts of reformists. Meanwhile,** you have the Minmatar who as already stated are perhaps the most brutal culture New Eden has ever seen and you have the Gallente who have a sincere lack of respect for human life the main thing keeping their economy afloat is the drug cartel, they treat their POW's worse than anything you've heard of on Earth, and they willingly accept their citizens as "collateral damage" if it means capturing the enemy. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4114	Posted - 2013.12.16 17:52:00 - [2] - Quote Princess Abi-Hime wrote: smells like propaganda to me Yeah, because how dare anyone say there is any right in religious slavery Did you even read it? Or just instant "WINmatar, trust in rust!" Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4115	Posted - 2013.12.16 18:32:00 - [3] - Quote Just some working ideas on new descriptions. I'm no writer but nonetheless I think it gets the point across that each description needs to start out positively, tread on some negatives, then return to some positives. Amarr The Amarr Empire is the oldest and largest of the four empires. Based strongly around their religion with their mighty Empress at the head, they believe it is their responsibility to unite all the people of New Eden. To achieve this, they search for primitive worlds and guide them as parents to modern education and standards of living. Part of this guidance involves hardships, which some brutally take too far. In the end, the captured race is welcomed as full citizens among the Amarr Empire. This mass unity of peoples has brought great stability to New Eden. Minmatar Once a tribal and primitive people, they were captured by the Amarr many years ago. They believed their parental guidance to be more of a slavery, and rebelled against their oppressors. Through foreign aid, they were able to break free of their bondage with the Amarr Empire and form their own Minmatar Republic. To this day, they still hold onto their tribal ways making them quite aggressive in diplomatic affairs. They have won their freedom against all odds and proudly carry forth their culture into these new days. Gallente The second largest of the four empires, the Gallente Federation represents the only true democracy of New Eden. As they took to the stars, they actively searched for all other signs of life and liberated them from their old ways, spreading the ideologies of freedom and individuality across New Eden. With such a large democracy, some corruption has taken root such leading to terrifying treatment of POWs and accepting civilians as collateral during war. Regardless, the Gallente Federation remains the last hope of democracy in New Eden. Caldari Caldari State is a capitalistic society run by a number of megacorporations. Once a member of Gallente Federation, the Caldari seceded as they believed the Federation was unfairly taking advantage of their fiscal gains and taking away their cultural identity. While a society run entirely by corporations presents a cold and harsh reality, their culture is founded around the ideals of honor and duty as well as their motto, "All For The Good Of Many." Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4133	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:19:00 - [4] - Quote LOL at people who say "I didn't choose Amarr because I don't like slavery, but that's a personal issue." As if people who choose Amarr support slavery Though I understand if you personally have a hard time distinguishing the difference between Amarr "slavery" and 16th/17th century slavery on Earth. Hint, one of them is only called "slavery" by their enemies to attack them, when in actuality the "slaves" are given proper education, proper health care, infrastructure on their homeworlds, rights to retain their culture, respect, and are usually freed within one generation. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4133	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:22:00 - [5] - Quote gbghg wrote: I like the descriptions but the amarr one seems like its trying to twist the slavery angle into soething else, idk might have just been the way you said it. See above. People here the word "slavery" and immediately associate it with all these predetermined thoughts. Amarr "slavery" isn't remotely similar to what so many people here instantly believe it is. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4134	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:36:00 - [6] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: The Caldari is perfect. The Amarr needs to show that they actually enslaved the minmatar. The Minmatar just need a few minor word changes. And the Gallente needs to be more noon friendly I honestly still don't know what POWs means. I want to avoid the word slavery as people will instantly draw conclusions that are not accurate. Especially considering that in Amarr slaverly, the slaves are given proper nutrition, proper education, proper healthcare, infrastructure on their homeworlds, rights to retain aspects of their culture, and are usually freed within a generation. Those who treat their slaves poorly are sentenced to slavery itself. It's hardly what people see it as. And I do refer to it as slavery in the Minmatar description. But yes, the negatives of Amarr is that there are those slave owners who treat their slaves brutally and don't get caught, but that is not representative of Amarr in general. There is an Imperial Decree against such brutality. Those slave owners are to be thought of as criminals. Still a negative of Amarr, but again not representative of Amarr belief. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4145	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:26:00 - [7] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Yeah, I think the American south is a much worse parallel to the Amarr than say, Ancient Rome and their assimilation of other races and "romanizing" them. Although, the best analogy is probably the misguided but non-malevolent "white man's burden" of the Victorian-era British empire. You probably shouldn't use terms such as "white man" when describing the Amarr as such terms are mostly used when discussing racism, which the Amarr are certainly not. In fact, the Amarr Empire is very ethnically diverse, second only to the Gallente Federation. Contrary to popular belief, the Amarr are very accepting of other races and culture practices, of course the catch is they are strict on religious views. However, at least there are no tensions between the various races in the Amarr Empire, except maybe between the True Amarr and Khanid which is only a very mild tension. Meanwhile in the Gallente Federation, tensions have never been higher between Gallente bloodlines and Matari bloodlines (those Matari that are Federation citizens). Quite frankly, most Gallenteans don't like, or even hate, the Matari immigrants. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4145	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:56:00 - [8] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: True Adamance wrote: As many people have said to me, I shall adjust my comment for you... "No one wants your (Faith) Freedom!" Comment is an insult as well, scum like you shame the Gallente. People like Arkena, Jakar, etc those are you Gallentean elite...the rest of you are disappointments. What's that? I couldn't hear you over your Gods astounding lack of existence Comments like this only show that you are a close minded individual and incapable of performing a proper argument. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4145	Posted - 2013.12.17 03:00:00 - [9] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I would attempt such a feat, but I was told not to stoop to other peoples levels, so I must hold fast. Just because your people have yet to enter the future, does not mean that I must help you up. There's a reason you side with the Caldari, but...I should stop the insults for now. A pack of dogs is still a threat when riled up too much. Please don't. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4145	Posted - 2013.12.17 03:02:00 - [10] - Quote True, stop feeding the troll. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor

Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4149	Posted - 2013.12.17 04:02:00 - [11] - Quote gbghg wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: gbghg wrote: I like the descriptions but the amarr one seems like its trying to twist the slavery angle into soething else, idk might have just been the way you said it. See above. People hear the word "slavery" and immediately associate it with all these predetermined thoughts. Amarr "slavery" isn't remotely similar to what so many people here instantly believe it is. i know, and you make a good point, but like aztec said it's about the reasons for the reclamation, it just feels like the words your using are trying to sugarcoat things a bit much. i have no problem with you trying to cast the amarr in a better light, hell i think its a good thing, giving people a better overview the factions is a good thing. i just feel that the whole "parental" angle you were aiming for is the wrong one, maybe something more along the lines of how they believe it is their religious duty to unite new eden and how they accomplish this with means ranging from forced reeducation of planetary populations to missionaries and the like. you could also focus on the spiritual side of their faith, idk, that parental angle made me a bit uncomfortable and felt off to me. Forced reeducation? The worlds the Amarr have reclaimed never had more than a primitive education compared to how technologically advanced the Amarr were after thousands of years. There was no reeducating, just educating. Sure, there was an Amarr bias on it, but that's no different than people in America being educated with an American bias or people in the UK being educated with a UK bias, for example. Maybe you don't like the whole "parental" thing, but I find it quite apt. Most "slave" owners genuinely care about their "slaves" and one of the highest honors to have in Amarr society is for your "slaves" to become freed and become a model citizen of the Amarr Empire. Of course, there are a good chunk of people who are brutal in the matter but those people are criminals and should be viewed no differently than the brutal criminals of any other society. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4149	Posted - 2013.12.17 04:23:00 - [12] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: True Adamance wrote: So the Gallente have not faith in the ideals they supposedly uphold? We have faith in ourselves, and that's all we need to liberate the Universe unto glorious freedom and equality, even if it must be realized through the burning husks of a thousand worlds. Freedom and equality through burning down worlds, you say? Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4149	Posted - 2013.12.17 04:28:00 - [13] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: there are no good guys or bad guys... there are just different groups of people who want different results And the funny part is, the Gallente and Amarr want pretty much the same result. They are both expansionists looking to conquer all the stars under the ideology of uniting all human beings. The difference is the Amarr do so through religion which teaches to care for and respect others, while the Gallente do so through democracy which teaches individual freedom and to care for just yourself. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4149	Posted - 2013.12.17 04:31:00 - [14] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: True Adamance wrote: So the Gallente have not faith in the ideals they supposedly uphold? We have faith in ourselves, and that's all we need to liberate the Universe unto glorious freedom and equality, even if it must be realized through the burning husks of a thousand worlds. Freedom and equality through burning down worlds, you say? There can be neither so long as a single Caldari draws breath. Anyone who helps them in their struggle will regretfully meet the same fate. Until that right has been wronged, there can be no peace, no freedom, no equality. Lay down your arms and we will consider negotiations with your people. Really? Because I don't recall the Caldari threatening your Federation. They didn't wish to take away your values, they simply wished to retain their own. Fact of the matter is the Caldari people as a whole are happy with their society, but the Federation deems it impure and makes it their responsibility to cleanse it. If the Federation is all about freedom, why not allow the Caldari State the freedom to retain their identity? Especially as they were content to not interfere with Federation affairs should they be given independence? Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4149	Posted - 2013.12.17 04:34:00 - [15] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: knight guard fury wrote: im pretty sure the Gallente are still persecuting Minmatar in there own space from that "assassination" that happened a while back, but I could be wrong Criminals will be treated as such. Any attack against the Gallente Federation will not go unpunished. It is likely that these few rebels were still highly brainwashed from prolonged exposure to the Amarr. Investigations are still undergoing, and they will receive proper care and treatment until they have been deemed guilty in a court of law. Of course, the Gallente can do no wrong. Definitely don't bring up the fact that it was a Federation citizen who went on a killing spree at a Matari tribal festival killing 59 including the Ray of the Matar. Definitely don't bring up the fact that the so called Matari "criminal" was attacked by a gang of racists Federation citizens and was only trying to defend himself. Definitely don't bring up the fact that the Matari were never truly welcomed into the Federation by most of your citizens. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4149	Posted - 2013.12.17 04:36:00 - [16] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Really? Because I don't recall the Caldari threatening your Federation. They didn't wish to take away your values, they simply wished to retain their own. Fact of the matter is the Caldari people as a whole are happy with their society, but the Federation deems it impure and makes it their responsibility to cleanse it. If the Federation is all about freedom, why not allow the Caldari State the freedom to retain their identity? Especially as they were content to not interfere with Federation affairs should they be given independence? We made the mistake of reaching out to the Caldari once. It will not happen again. Make no mistake. We are at war, and we do not want prisoners. Actually the Gallente Caldari War ended some time ago. Look it up. There are now only some fights over a few contested systems in low sec, which are really only fought by the capsuleers and mercenaries. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4149	Posted - 2013.12.17 04:41:00 - [17] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: I have read up on much lore about the Minmatar, my bloodline, and some chronicles (which im still reading) and I have got to say that they are still going through some hard times with them fighting the Ammatar/amarr conflict and surviving on their own, but they continue to live on because of their religion/tribes/culture/etc. and that is one of the reasons I chose to be a Matari and I fight for them with a reason, not because other people persuaded me. You should probably look a bit into the Gallente's lore as well, your supposed ally. When you look at how you two met, it becomes evident that the Gallente only sparked and fueled your rebellion against the Amarr because they felt threatened by the Amarr and wanted to take advantage of the Amarr's recent defeat to the Jove. Really, the Minmatar are just puppets of war to the Gallente to gain an edge on the only other empire large enough to threaten them. It becomes even more evident that the Gallente are simply using the Minmatar when you realize that most the Gallente citizens never truly welcomes the Matari into the Federation, and there remains several tensions between the two sides, including most recently a series of incidents which began with a Federation citizen murdering 59 Matari including a Matari tribal leader. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4149	Posted - 2013.12.17 04:51:00 - [18] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: knight guard fury wrote: I have read up on much lore about the Minmatar, my bloodline, and some chronicles (which im still reading) and I have got to say that they are still going through some hard times with them fighting the Ammatar/amarr conflict and surviving on their own, but they continue to live on because of their religion/tribes/culture/etc. and that is one of the reasons I chose to be a Matari and I fight for them with a reason, not because other people persuaded me. You should probably look a bit into the Gallente's lore as well, your supposed ally. When you look at how you two met, it becomes evident that the Gallente only sparked and fueled your rebellion against the Amarr because they felt threatened by the Amarr and wanted to take advantage of the Amarr's recent defeat to the Jove. Really, the Minmatar are just puppets of war to the Gallente to gain an edge on the only other empire large enough to threaten them. It becomes even more evident that the Gallente are simply using the Minmatar when you realize that most the Gallente citizens never truly welcomes the Matari into the Federation, and there remains several tensions between the two sides, including most recently a series of incidents which began with a Federation citizen murdering 59 Matari including a Matari tribal leader. It takes time to wash off the presence of the Amarr, the Minmatar have the best of both worlds in this: revenge on their captors, and freedom in the new New Eden. Your goals are mutual, and in time, we will come to embrace each other as brothers and sisters. Our your goals mutual? The Anmatar sure don't buy into your brainwashing. And let's just pretend hypothetically you defeated the Amarr Empire (in your dreams), what reason do the Matari have to believe you won't treat them any better than the Caldari? What reason do they have to believe your citizens will end all racist prejudice against them? What reason do they have to believe you won't cast them to the slums? Meanwhile, the Anmatar are eating well, getting proper health care, updated infrastructure, higher education, and proper admittance into the Amarr Empire. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4151	Posted - 2013.12.17 05:12:00 - [19] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: knight guard fury wrote: I have read up on much lore about the Minmatar, my bloodline, and some chronicles (which im still reading) and I have got to say that they are still going through some hard times with them fighting the Ammatar/amarr conflict and surviving on their own, but they continue to live on because of their religion/tribes/culture/etc. and that is one of the reasons I chose to be a Matari and I fight for them with a reason, not because other people persuaded me. You should probably look a bit into the Gallente's lore as well, your supposed ally. When you look at how you two met, it becomes evident that the Gallente only sparked and fueled your rebellion against the Amarr because they felt threatened by the Amarr and wanted to take advantage of the Amarr's recent defeat to the Jove. Really, the Minmatar are just puppets of war to the Gallente to gain an edge on the only other empire large enough to threaten them. It becomes even more evident that the Gallente are simply using the Minmatar when you realize that most the Gallente citizens never truly welcomes the Matari into the Federation, and there remains several tensions between the two sides, including most recently a series of incidents which began with a Federation citizen murdering 59 Matari including a Matari tribal leader. The Chronicles never say most as you say. It always references it to some or a lot, but certainly not most. There's much dirt about the federation and its policies but you can do so without stretching words to prove your point. You'll never catch me saying most Amarr agree with Vitox poisoning so please, use facts, there's certainly a lot out there. There's more than just chronicles, https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Modern_Era_of_the_Gallente_Federation#Amarr_Revelation "Even if the Federation was high on victory against the State, military leaders knew that opening a second full-scale war against the Amarr Empire would be fatal. Nonetheless, for a long time, the Federation government observed and studied the Minmatar, realizing that they could be used to weaken the Amarr Empire. However, they realized that open action would force hostilities with the Empire, so they were only able to covertly supply the Minmatar rebels with supplies and materiel." This flat out states that the Federation used the Minmatar to weaken the Amarr Empire, and did so secretly to avoid direct hostilities with the Amarr. But why would the Gallente want to weaken the Amarr? Well there's a bunch of other good quotes for that too. "The Federation government kept strict control of information regarding the Amarr, fearing that the revelation of the Federation not being the sole and collective representative of human civilization would undermine the entire unionGÇÖs purpose. The highest levels of the Federation slowly became aware of the AmarrGÇÖs practice of slavery, something that would be considered unforgivable by the population." This right here clearly states that the Federation goverment planned to use Amarr's "slavery" as their campaign line to get their own people to hate the Amarr before they even were aware of who they were. Never judge a book by it's cover, eh? Guess that doesn't apply to the Gallente. They were so afraid their Federation wouldn't represent the entire cluster that they had to demonize any other advanced civilization before formally meeting. "Having encountered the only other interstellar civilization that was comparable to the size and scope of the Federation, many citizens across countless worlds realized that the union they had signed membership of was no longer the sole representative of humanity. There were several cases of instability, which included protests and short-lived attempts at further secessions (something the Caldari tried and failed to exploit)." Right here goes on to show that as the Federation citizens learned they weren't the only representation of the cluster, many began to try and secede, like the Caldari. Now why oh why would the Federation fear this? After all, if these worlds were admitted into the Federation surely they also believe in freedom and liberty? No, sounds more like a power control issue. It is not stretching anything to say that corrupt government officials feared the power loss from worlds breaking away from the Federation, even if they were to continue maintaining freedom and liberty which is supposedly what they are all about. "There would also be a cultural renaissance, particularly amongst the ethnic Gallente, as the result of first contact with the Amarr. To many, the Amarr Empire was perceived to resemble one of their planetside feudal kingdoms from ancient times, that had managed to retain its pre-industrial culture into space and across the stars. Although this oversimplified the complex nuances of a similarly interstellar empire, these Gallente found the Amarr fascinating, despite the disagreements about slavery. The fact that the Amarr were still institutionally religious and conducted themselves in a way that was seen as anachronistic of the spacefaring era was a point that several Federal citizens took to eagerly." As this quote shows, before the Federation government began to demonize the Amarr Empire to retain their own power, many of the first citizens of the Federation to come in contact with the Amarr actually envied them. Crazy to think how fondly so many Gallenteans viewed the Amarr Empire before their government interfered with anything. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4154	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:01:00 - [20] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: so far I see it this way. Caldari - acceptable Minmatar - acceptable Gallente - unacceptable Amarr - acceptable We share the same views Even I do not hate the Minmatar, they are actually alright in my opinion. I only fight them because Amarr are my favorite and that's who we fight in FW, but I'd love to do Amarr vs Gallente FW if it were ever made possible. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor

Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4154	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:14:00 - [21] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Logi Bro wrote: Why are you here? Go to the Intergalactic Summit. Nobody but other RP'ers care, everyone else is just going to use the race that has the best equipment. (Minmatar, at the moment, that's why we win all the FW matches.) They are convinced that the Amarr and Caldari have a harder time winning in FW because of the way CCP markets the factions. To be honest it should be backward, more hardcore players should be more prone to pick Caldari and Amarr. So this all circles back to the fact that most people want to be Gallante and Minmatar while Caldari are third popular and Amarr are the least popular. My theory is that there's something fundamental in the attraction the Ammarian race has for players who don't have the heart for a real fight. Whereas on the Minmatar side, we're just getting warmed up. I hope you Minmatar are enjoying beating all the random Amarr blueberries and thinking you are dominating because of it, meanwhile when it is a fair match with both teams properly q-synced the Amarr come out on top from my experience. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4154	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:16:00 - [22] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Aero Yassavi when the hell did I deny that we weren't using the minmatar? Get your head out of your ass please. "The Chronicles never say most as you say. It always references it to some or a lot, but certainly not most." You said that in response to me making the point that the Gallente are using the Minmatar as puppets of war. Was I wrong in assuming you were referring to that? It's ok to admit defeat sometimes. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4155	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:19:00 - [23] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: knight guard fury wrote: so far I see it this way. Caldari - acceptable Minmatar - acceptable Gallente - unacceptable Amarr - acceptable We share the same views Even I do not hate the Minmatar, they are actually alright in my opinion. I only fight them because Amarr are my favorite and that's who we fight in FW, but I'd love to do Amarr vs Gallente FW if it were ever made possible. there's a possibility I may revert to being anmatar, but im still loyal to the republic There's quite a few Anmatar who are both loyal to the republic and Amarr Empire. They are simply the ones who can understand and appreciate what the Amarr's true intentions are while also retaining respect to their own heritage and can see right through the lies of the Gallente Federation. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4155	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:23:00 - [24] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: im interested in having a q-synced against you in an FW to see who wins. im skilled into everything so don't hate if I bring out my whole arsenal of "im going to **** your ass" weapons, tanks, suit, and dropships Well if you can q-sync which squads are on your team I can't imagine why you wouldn't be able to q-sync which squads are on the enemy team. Perhaps we can try and arrange this sometime? Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4155	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:24:00 - [25] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: No Aero Yassavi, as usual your pretentious nature is making you look stupid. Look at your post before my comment, and notice where you say most hate the Minmatar in the Federation. How you would think I was combating the truth of Minmatar being used to weaken the Amarrians by saying my quote about the chronicle is beyond me. I'm an honest guy, and will admit when I've made a falsehood, there's no shame in changing your opinion based on new information...something you guys wouldn't understand. Edit: saw response and lays down sword Yeah, sorry that is my bad, you are absolutely correct. I was hoping I got the edit in before you saw it Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4155	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:30:00 - [26] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: knight guard fury wrote: im interested in having a q-synced against you in an FW to see who wins. im skilled into everything so don't hate if I bring out my whole arsenal of "im going to **** your ass" weapons, tanks, suit, and dropships Well if you can q-sync which squads are on your team I can't imagine why you wouldn't be able to q-sync which squads are on the enemy team. Perhaps we can try and arrange this sometime? well, Im only on during the weekend (because I have school during the week) so I guess ill be hanging around in Pie Public when I get the chance ive got no mic so I wont be talking but i may be able to borrow one of my relatives PIE Ground Control, don't try to go in PIE Public for something like this. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor

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